The following is from a chapter in my new book, “Stewardship Myths.”
The Ignorance Myth
The Ignorance Myth – The Myth: Pastors should not know what members give.
The Truth: Pastors need to know what members give.
“I don’t know what my members give and I don’t want to. It might affect the way I treat them.” Ever hear a pastor or staff members use those words? I hear this all the time. It sounds spiritual doesn’t it? In fact, while you might argue knowing or not knowing, using this tired old phrase just means you are immature as a leader. I mean if you can not handle whether someone is giving or not how will you handle dealing with the rest of the stuff in their lives? If I was a layperson and I heard you say the above I doubt I would trust you with any other detail of my life. Why would I?
Think about it another way. Pastors deal with all kinds of personal knowledge of their members from cheating on their spouses to cheating on their income tax. We compartmentalize that away and extend grace to them without letting it affect how we treat them. Why would knowing or not knowing what a person gave to your ministry change how you dealt with them? If you are mature enough to handle random counseling responsibilities you are mature enough to handle what your members give or don’t give.
The myth is that pastors should NOT know what their members give. The truth is pastors NEED to know what their members give. This myth keeps pastors in the dark and ultimately causes them to trust people they should not and often to make bad decisions.
Of all the myths and church legends that this book will deal with this myth carries more passion to it than any other. You will find strong opinions on both sides of the issues. Like all myths it is rooted not in biblical texts but assumptions and popular opinions.
What does the Bible say about this issue?
You might hear some quote Scripture as a basis for pastors remaining ignorant. Typically the passage that is given as a proof text is found in James chapter two which deals with showing favoritism. Yet that passage in no way deals with the pastor knowing or not knowing what members give. It addresses only favoritism, something maturity rules out.
Others sometimes point out that Jesus taught we were to give in secret. Indeed that is exactly correct yet again Jesus teaching was not addressing whether a pastor should know or not know. He was dealing with the motivation of giving. His teaching was that we should not give so that others would see and thus give us honor. His teachings on giving never deal with a pastor’s knowledge of giving. Indeed no passage deals with the topic one way or the other.
How the myth is perpetuated
It would be difficult to track where the standard of pastors being ignorant of giving first began. In part the blame can be laid at the feet of the laity of the church. Talk of giving in any shape, form or fashion is unpopular. The lay response to this topic more often than not is, “It’s none of your business!” When you understand how few give to the church it’s no wonder they worry that their sin might be found out. As a result there is incredible pressure from the laity to keep pastors in the dark.
It is not only lay people that perpetuate this myth. Pastors are as guilty as lay people for allowing it to continue. Many do not want the added burden of one more thing crowding their schedules or thoughts. Others see money as somehow unspiritual and thus not a part of their purview. Whatever the reasoning, the myth has been perpetuated year after year, generation of preacher after generation of preacher.
The impact of the myth
The impact of myth and pastors buying into it has resulted in the vast majority of pastors not knowing the giving patterns of their members. John and Sylvia Ronsvalle wrote a definitive book on church giving patterns called “Behind the Stained Glass Windows” On this issue they state, “Knowledge of giving may be a helpful spiritual tool, but it is not one readily available to most pastors.” They found that more than three-quarters of the pastors that they interviewed felt knowledge of what individual members gave would be helpful. However they also found that more than three quarters of those they interviewed agreed that church members did not want the pastor knowing. They concluded then that the majority of pastors were ignorant of the giving patterns of their members. George Barna in his book “How To Increase Giving to the Church,” found that almost half (44 percent) of the senior pastors did have access to the giving records of the church.
Clearly then the position of a pastor being ignorant of the members giving has deeply impacted the number of ministers who know. The real question is whether or not that is a good thing and conversely whether or not pastors should have unrestricted access to the giving activities of the churches they are tasked to shepherd.
Why pastors should know what their members give
First, because they are the spiritual leaders of the congregation and giving is a spiritual matter. In fact I would argue that it is often one of the leading indicators of where a person is spiritually. How can you effectively lead a church and not know what your members give?
Would you knowingly allow someone who you knew was a thief or had a habitual sin problem to hold a leadership position in your church? Of course the answer is no. Yet in fact we do just that by not holding a standard of giving in our churches. You unknowingly are allowing those that do not give, which God says is robbery, to serve in your ministry. By not giving on a regular basis they are practicing a habitual sin that should disqualify them from leadership. All this is happening right under your nose if you are ignorant of the giving of your members.
Let’s assume that the rationale for not knowing is correct. Suppose that it might affect how you deal with people. After all it is sensitive data. Knowing that some pretend to be leaders and yet don’t give could indeed affect how you felt about people and how you dealt with them.
So, who does handle this kind of information? Someone has to give account of giving at churches and ministries. Someone has to maintain the paper work. So, what do most churches do? They allow lay people to handle the information.
Following the thinking of those that don’t want to know giving on the basis that it might impact how they treat people, are they saying lay people would not be affected by this information? If my theory that it is a maturity issue is correct are we saying then that lay members are more mature than pastors? Of course we are not. The argument gets turned upon its head. As spiritual leaders tasked with handling scores of sensitive issues I think pastors can handle knowing the giving habits of members.
A personal example
As a young pastor I was like most of my peers in that I did not look at the giving of my members. I suppose that intellectually I knew not every one gave to the ministry. After about a decade of ministry I was finally convinced that the giving of my members was something I should know about. I asked the financial secretary to print out the giving records of the members of the church where I was the pastor. What a surprise I got!
I found scores of leaders who were not giving at all and many who were giving only a few hundred dollars. These were people that held high paying jobs, lived in fine homes and drove brand new cars. What really surprised me was the fact that the Treasurer of the church was not giving. Even though he was not giving to the church he had found it his duty to regularly criticize decisions and spending in the church.
After that initial look at the giving records of our church I knew that keeping a pulse on giving was essential. I never announced that I was looking at giving. None but a handful ever knew I checked the giving records of members. While it was not something I did clandestinely it was simply not something I made a huge public issue of. I would typically look at year’s end, mid year and right before we nominated members for leadership positions. I never treated anyone any differently after knowing their giving records. I did however never let anyone in a position of leadership that was not a giver.
A standard for leadership
I believe that not giving to a church or ministry excludes a person from leadership in that organization. Could you imagine the outrage members would feel if they suddenly found out the pastor was not giving to the church? What if they found out that staff members were not giving? Do you not think that they would demand either they start contributing financially or find employment some where else? Why is it that we have one standard for ministerial leaders but non for lay leaders? What is good for the goose should be good for the gander!
The church that I pastored established giving standards for all those in leadership positions. We regularly had our Sunday School teachers teaching stewardship lessons at least once a quarter. As such we felt it only appropriate that teachers be living out what they were teaching. Every year we asked our teachers to sign a covenant that in part stated their commitment to giving to the church. The first year we enacted the covenant we lost one family who felt the church had over stepped its bounds. Guess what? That family was not giving!
We also adapted a standard for all deacons of the church. To serve as a deacon you had to have a consistency in giving. Each year as deacons were nominated their giving record was checked. Those nominated who were not giving did not make it to the final ballot. No one ever knew the reasons why. In this manner we held leaders accountable and also in a way motivated existing leaders to continue faithful giving.
The failure to consistently give to the church did not mean you could not serve anywhere in the church. We had scores of people serving in various other places of ministry. We simply adapted the stance that leaders could not on the one hand preach giving and then on the other hand they themselves not give. Why should those not pulling their weight to financially support the ministry have a say in how that ministry is run?
Over the years I lost a few members over our standards. In every case that I can remember the member was not a consistent giver to the church. While we lost a few numbers we did not lose real dollars. I would rather have not lost any members but I came to recognize that some standards are worth losing members over. I would argue that in the end we gained much more than we lost.
How can you tell if someone is consistently giving?
You don’t have to have someone’s tax records to tell if they are giving or not. While you might not be able to establish whether they are giving a certain percentage or not you can see if they are giving. First, it’s fairly easy to find out what types of jobs they do and you can know a range of what typically those in that profession make. Then you can see where they live, what kind of cars they drive, etc. In the end it is not difficult to determine who is giving and who is not.
As we stated in chapter one, a few people give the majority of the money to your ministry. In the average church a person only has to give a few thousand dollars a year to make the top giving percentile of the church. When you see someone that has a good job, lives in a nice home and drives a new car giving only a few hundred dollars you can assume that they are not givers. Determining who is giving and who is not is easier than you might think.
Grace not law
Some might object that the standards we set were legalistic. Yet do we not set standards of behavior in other areas of the Christian walk? Why would we not set a standard in something as important as giving? Never did we make giving a sacrament that was required. We always gave understanding and grace to those that for whatever reason were struggling.
Please understand that I am not advocating you post the giving of members on the back bulletin board. Nor am I saying that it is wise to even individually confront members. Each pastor must decide for himself how best to handle the giving information of his members. My position is that as the spiritual leader of the church the pastor is not the last person who should know about giving but the first.
Pastors who know giving patterns raise more money
The second major reason in my mind that pastors need to know the giving patterns of their churches lies in the fact that they typically raise more money than those that do not know. George Barna speaking on the subject of pastoral access to giving stated, “I found that such access is most common in the churches that are most effective in stewardship activity.” He went on to say, “Why should a pastor risk the possibility of leading people unfairly because he is aware of how much money they give to the church? Because the pastor is generally one of the key strategists involved in the stewardship campaign and in the aggregate financial oversight of the church. Having a detailed understanding of the giving patterns within the church facilitates clearer strategic planning. Pastors use giving data as a means of assessing how to broach the topic of financial need within the church, and how to conceive fund-raising plans for church-wide implementation. You cannot make good decisions without good information.”
In my experience pastors that know the giving patterns of their members on average raise more money for ministry than those that are ignorant. Typically I begin discussing this issue early on in an engagement with a new church. While I recognize that some will never be comfortable knowing what members give I do believe that most pastors can handle knowing. Overcoming the Ignorance Myth is one of the hardest tasks we have in helping pastors raise the funds needed to fuel their dreams.
As we have seen when we looked at The Pareto Myth, a few people will give the majority of what is given. Wise leaders know who those people are and how to deal with them. Barna again weighs in by saying, “Effective fund-raising churches refuse to treat all people as equals – and people truly are not when it comes to giving. Most of these churches develop some kind of segmentation strategy in which they categorize the congregation into types of donors.”
While segmenting donors might be foreign to many pastors and church leaders we do this all the time in other areas of the church. I have a great voice for the congregation. You do not want me on the platform singing a solo. Am I offended that the music minister never asks me to sing a solo? Not in the least. There are other skills and gifts that I have but music is not one of them. The same can be said for many other areas of our Christian life. Churches naturally turn to those with the right skill set for each task needed. In doing so they do not show favoritism over others who do not have that gift or skill. Only the immature would take offense at not being asked to do what they are not skilled or equipped to do.
In the same manner recognizing that God has equipped some better than others in finances does not mean we do a disservice to those less equipped. You have to learn how to value and celebrate the widow’s mite the same as the large gift. Barna states, “People who earn relatively large sums of money or who have more disposable wealth have generally reached that place in life because of their unique understanding and perspectives related to money and wealth. Communicating effectively with them often requires that they be approached differently and handled differently.”
When ten percent or less of your donors contributes as much as fifty percent of what is given do you not see the necessity of successfully cultivating them to fully exercise their gifts? I can assure you that other ministries and non-profits recognize the value of those donors and will not hesitate to fish in your pond! An effective strategy of recognizing and communicating with major donors in a manner that does not violate either Scripture or the values of your church is essential to raising maximum dollars.
In conclusion
A word of caution needs to be given. Please understand that it is easy for me to write this from the safety of my study. You have to live with what you decide to do. Some hills simply are not worth dying upon. This could be one. Always we have to weigh counsel and advice through our situation. If you have lived by The Ignorance Myth for a long time I would be careful of the steps I took to extricate yourself from its trap. The last thing I want is to create problems in your ministry. My point is simply that as pastors you have the right to know and a need to know what members give.
Pastors who know what their members give do not violate any Scriptural principle, nor do they show favoritism. They simply have learned how to communicate with all levels of donors including those that can give larger amounts for ministry purposes. As for knowing and being somehow disappointed and favoring one member over another, get over that! Realize that the vast majority of those folks shaking your hand from Sunday to Sunday just gave NOTHING in the offering plate. Too many times in church life we allow the tail to wag the dog. Stop worrying about the few that might object with your knowledge of your donors. In my experience, those that howl the loudest are those that give the least. It’s high time we reject The Ignorance Myth for what it truly is, a fear of being discovered as a non supportive member of the Kingdom.
Mark Brooks
Founder and President
The Charis Group
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